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June 14, 2001

I've been thinking about upgrading my system, but I'm unsure how to go about it. Currently, my system consists of a pair of Polk Audio RT8 speakers, NAD312 integrated amp, Marantz CD46 CD player, Nordost Blue Heaven speaker cables, and Nordost Black Knight interconnects.

I suspect the weak link is the CD player. Question is, what would be the way to go: new CD player or maybe a DAC? Your thoughts please.

Kind regards,

Donald Slot

I'm never in favor of scrapping functional electronics, so the DAC avenue seems the most attractive upgrade route. The MSB Link DAC III is the budget champ at $399 and received a Reviewers' Choice nod from our sister publication SoundStage!. Is "the new digital CD player" you mention a SACD or DVD-A machine? If so, I'm still underwhelmed by the availability of software and would advise to stay put until this has changed.


June 14, 2001

I read your response to Tony's question about budget carousel CD changers. I was wondering if you've encountered the Harman/Kardon FL8370. It has HDCD decoding and dual 18-bit Burr-Brown 1702 DACs. Sounds good on paper, but I've also heard that Harman/Kardon CD players are unreliable. Any information you could offer would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Travis

I'm not on top of the current crop of Harman/Kardon products, but they're on my list as GoodSound! contenders. You're right -- the specs look impressive. To investigate reliability, you might want to check with some local audio service techs -- most cities have numerous of these. Ask them whether Harman/Kardon changers come in for repair more than others, and if so, which models are worst in this regard.


June 13, 2001

I recently discovered your site and I think it's great. I've been in the process of upgrading my stereo equipment, and I'm wondering if I should do anything with my CD player. I notice a large price difference between the low and high ends of the spectrum. Is there really that much of a difference in the sound quality?

Thanks,

Rick

As a particular medium in the audio arts matures, the sonic differences between the affordable and ultra-expensive price ranges grow smaller. CD technology never sounded better than it does now. This even holds true for very affordable players. Yes, there are improvements to be had as you go upscale, but they become more subtle. While you may appreciate them in a dealer demo or A/B comparison, would you care enough about them to hand over the long green? That's the question. Next time you visit a local dealer, have him demo for you his very best system, cost no issue. Then ask him to substitute the CD player with something in your budget. This would be a great way to find out how you feel about the incremental improvements.


June 13, 2001

I am now listening to Axiom M3Tis with a Cambridge A300. This is a truly awesome setup! Thanks for the recommendations. My CDs are coming alive. The bass is enough where I can definitely live without a subwoofer for a long time. I thought I had my sub plugged in for a minute. My Ben Harper CD has enough bass where it was shaking my entertainment center. I now see why I could use some stands. Anyway, I'm sure glad I got this setup!

Bryan Donovan

Glad you concur that these products work well together. Happy tunes.


June 12, 2001

Your website is really a big help to audio enthusiasts like me. I have a Classé CA-101 power amp and also a Cambridge Audio P500 power amp. I want to ask you if the sound will improve if I biamp with these two, Classé on the low frequencies and Cambridge on the mids and highs. Your help is greatly appreciated. Thanks,

Joel

Depends on how you do it and what speakers you have. Here are some general biamp rules for everyone's benefit.

Unless you have an outboard crossover (Paradigm makes some excellent ones) or one of the amps has input-level trim pots, you need identical amps from the same maker. Even if the power rating of the Classé and Cambridge amps were identical, their input sensitivities most likely won't be. This means that for a given signal, one amp will play louder than the other and cause a level imbalance in your system that you can't address.

Biamping two-way speakers is generally a waste of money -- you dedicate one power amp to just drive a tweeter. It's more advantageous with biwirable three-way speakers that allow separate access to the high/mid and bass circuits, especially if these speakers are seriously extended in the bass. Still, you either need identical amps, input-level controls/attenuators on one of two dissimilar amps, or an outboard crossover that allows independent level adjustments for each circuit.

But one possible problem remains: two dissimilar amps most likely will be voiced differently. Using both to drive one speaker can create timbral discontinuity. You may prefer such an effect, but it's fair to say that the speaker probably won't sound like the designer intended.


June 12, 2001

Exactly what is an MSB Link DAC III? Pardon my ignorance, but I am striving for better CD music and don't want to have to revert back to records to get it. I have a Harman/Kardon AVR-510 with ribbon-tweeter speakers and a powered subwoofer. Thanks kindly for your help here!

Dave

Functionally, every single-box CD player can be divided into two parts -- the CD transport that spins and reads the disc, and the converter that translates the digital 1s and 0s into an analog signal. Every single-box CD player contains both parts. To obtain improved performance without scrapping an otherwise working player, certain firms offer separate converters. Think of it as a computer-chip upgrade for your CD player. To go off-board requires either a TosLink digital output on the back of your CD player (the little square plug with the plastic cover) or the equivalent RCA jack labeled "digital out." MSB Technology happens to make one of the best budget converters, or DACs, on the market.


June 11, 2001

I (and, I suspect, other readers) would greatly appreciate a few words on CD changers -- five- or six-disc carousel variety, not the jukeboxes. It appears that my system will have to do double duty as a source of continuous background music for a home office (primarily ambient electronic, but really a bit of everything) as well as a means of dedicated listening, mostly for acoustic jazz and classical. To that end, are there any CD changers that you feel stand out from the crowd?

For example, are you as fond of Onkyo changers as you are of their receivers? Is the Denon DCM-370 still considered the reference budget changer? Do changers from the few higher-end manufacturers that make them, like Adcom and Rotel, worth the additional money? Or is it all six of one, half-dozen the other at this level?

My current source, per GoodSound! recommendation, is a single-disc Pioneer DV-343 DVD player. Would it make sense just to replace it with the carousel version? I was intending to keep it for DVD functionality.

Thank you very much in advance.

Tony

Excellent question. I suspect that sonically the Rotel, Adcom and Arcam CD changers do reside at the top of the carousel-type heap. From my years in retail, the Onkyo changers always struck me as the most reliable we sold, an important consideration with something that has a lot of moving parts. I'd go after the most basic Onkyo with the features you need and then perhaps add an MSB Link DAC III for outstanding sonics.


June 10, 2001

I really like the direction your website is headed with its reviews. The sub-$1000 bookshelf/minimonitor market offers the greatest values in audio today. I really hope you can review a pair of Phase Technology 4.5 bookshelf speakers. Like the Axioms, they are extremely well-balanced and musical speakers at just $249 a pair. I have them combined with an NHT SW2pi subwoofer. The sound is so well balanced and musical, with or without the sub. When I have a couple of  bucks available I will be trying the Axioms in my system as well.

Thanks,

Dennis

The next two reviews will be on the Hsu Research VTF-2 ($500) and then the Adire Rava ($399) subwoofers. I've been looking to identify overachieving, musical subwoofers that would mate well with affordable two-way speakers. You're right -- a good sat/sub combo can be a highly effective way to get maximum performance for a reasonable budget. With regard to the 4.5s, we've put in requests with Phase Technology already. Once something arrives, we'll review it promptly.


June 10, 2001

I am a newcomer to this Internet magazine. How are your review products selected? I don't own any of the gear, but I would like to see some reviews of the Norh gear from Thailand. Generally, it's good value for the money.

I'm thinking about getting the Cambridge Audio 500SE CD player. One store owner told me that this player will give you good bass, but its main strengths are its mids and highs. I would like to see that player stuck in a different system to see how it really shines.

Thanks,

Ray

On GoodSound!, we're trying to identify overachieving budget kings. Thus product is selected based on prior experience, dealer and reader suggestions and generally good word of mouth. Certain companies already have established themselves as leaders in the budget sector. Others still need to be discovered. Then it's a function of sifting through the available product offerings and obtaining review loans. After that it's listening, comparing and arriving at a sonic "core signature" that we describe hopefully clearly enough to help you understand whether it would suit your personal needs or not. And, of course, we're always open to reader feedback. Norh has been suggested before, and we have contacted the company.

The Cambridge Audio 500se player has been returned, and a follow-up isn't planned. Ask your dealer to demonstrate this player in the context of a system that is deliberately put together to mimic your own as closely as possible. If you like what you hear, follow your ears.


June 9, 2001

If you don't mind, would you be able to guide me and suggest some speakers that you think are great for home theater and music? I was leaning toward a JMlab CC700 center. Also concerning a receiver, I was leaning toward the Denon AVR-1801 or Yamaha RXV-596; any other receivers I should try? I just hope you can help me; at least it will save me a lot of time rather than listening to all the speakers in the hi-fi shop and still getting even more confused. I am really hoping you can get back to me.

Thanking you in advance,

Joanne

My feeling on the movie/music debate is as follows: If you're predominantly a music person, most of your speaker budget should go to the front speakers, which will anchor your music system. The center-channel speaker should be by the same company and preferably use the same tweeter and mid/woofers as the mains. This makes for seamless sonic left/right pans across the screen. The rears are much less critical -- after all, the occasional helicopter chop-chop, bullet, cracking branch and ambient rear effects are only "fill." Diehard videophiles will disagree, of course. It's all a matter of priorities.

Many folks who own a combined movie/music system believe they can use all of their HT speakers also for music. Not. Unless you had a very sophisticated surround-sound processor (Meridian, Lexicon), most music surround modes on home-theater receivers are very compromised. Simply, music sounds better in regular stereo. Depending on how much music listening versus watching of major blockbusters you do, this then answers how much of your budget to allocate to either. Also, if most your TV watching concentrates on soaps, nature programs and older movies, you may not need the full surround-sound effect (at least not right away) and really enjoy a good L/C/R setup.

If you have the physical space, you might like to keep your two-channel system currently anchored by your Rotel gear separate. Not having a TV between two music speakers that are sited for best soundstaging is usually a good thing. From the home-theater speakers you list, I'd then concentrate on the JMlab and Tannoy Mercury packages for your TV system. If your budget forces you to assemble things in stages, get the home-theater front/center speakers first, then add the rears later. The receivers you list are both good -- I'd also add the Onkyo TX-DS494 ($320) as an alternative if it (or one of its larger siblings). It offers 55Wpc, is an update of an earlier version, and now features Dolby Pro Logic II.


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