GOODSOUND!GoodSound! "Ask Me" Archives

...to December 8, 2001

 

December 8, 2001

I've been browsing the Internet for DVD players lately. I've looked at some of the higher-end models such as those from NAD, etc., but I don't want to spend more than $400 or $500. I found one that might be too good to be true, unless there are other features I should be looking for. The Toshiba SD2700 (approximately $150 to $200). It has CD-R compatibility and HDCD decoding. The audio D/A converter is 24 bit/96kHz. If I could pick this unit up for around $150, why would someone spend more?

Rick Braile

The DVD-player market is really rife for some terrific deals, and it seems you have hit upon one of them. While you can certainly get more features or more advanced technology, such as progressive scan (only usable with a HD monitor) or DACs with 192kHz capability, the point of diminishing returns can creep up quickly. In many respects, it is wiser to buy a player like the Toshiba now and replace it in two years as opposed to paying three times that price only to gain what may be minimal performance benefit. Finally, as in the computer industry, the DVD player you buy today will be replaced with a new model in six months to a year, so it makes little sense to buy something just to be the current latest and greatest.


December 7, 2001

I have a question for you. I recently won a pair of MartinLogan Aeon speakers and will be receiving them shortly. I guess they have 4-ohm impedance, and my current Denon AVR-3300 receiver is rated down to 8 ohms. How will this affect the sound from the much better quality speakers? Would it be a good idea to upgrade to a better receiver? At this time I have no room for a separate two-channel setup. When I do have room, these speakers will eventually get placed in their own system. Thank you for your time.

Chris Lewis

Most receivers incorporate some form of protection circuitry that will shut down the unit in case of extremely low impedances. This is to protect the amplifiers within the unit itself, as well as protect the speakers from damaging distortion due to overdriving the amplifiers. The better upgrade for you (as opposed to another receiver) would be to add an additional two-channel power amplifier by using the preouts on the Denon. This way, you could keep everything in one system, use the Denon to drive the rest of your speakers, and have appropriate amplification for the MartinLogans. I would look at models from B&K and Adcom just to name two.


December 6, 2001

I want to buy a CD player, either a Wadia 831 or Meridian 506/588. Is it better for me to wait to buy an SACD player? Do they play regular CDs at the same quality as the players that I want, or should I just buy the regular CD player, without SACD? Thank you.

Udi Molem

A CD player is still a very important component in most people's systems. If you have a large CD collection, you want to get the most out of it, and a standard CD player is optimized for this duty. Although it is debated to a degree, most SACD and DVD players perform well with CDs. If you have interest in buying new music in either of the high-resolution formats, or you wish to implement a multichannel system, then having a player with these capabilities would be the way to go. There is little price penalty these days for adding a little more capability to your system, and you may find the sound quality hard to resist. And since many manufacturers are producing the high-resolution players at a substantial rate, there are deals to be found.

To sum up, if you are simply looking for excellent playback of your CD collection and have no interest in the new formats, the players you mention would likely make excellent choices. If you want CD playback along with the newer formats, looking at an SACD/DVD-A player would make the most sense.


December 5, 2001

I don't really have a question so much as a point to make regarding Consumer Reports. Consumer Reports' speaker reviews are based solely on two criteria: (1) Measured frequency response or "accuracy," and (2) bass extension. Top recommendations routinely go to brands such as Bose, Yamaha and Technics (brands that -- unfairly or not -- do not get much respect in high-end circles).

CR does not go into any detail as to how they measure frequency response (i.e., is it done in an anechoic chamber, or in a living room?). Bass response is measured only in Hz, without reference to the quality of the bass. CR does not review speakers made by Axiom, Paradigm or PSB. The only respected "audiophile" brand I have seen rated by CR is NHT. NHT speakers usually do not do as well as the aforementioned mass-market brands by CR's criteria. I would argue, however, that frequency response and bass extension are only two of many factors that impact speaker performance. To make a judgment on any product with reference to these two criteria alone is a mistake.

It should also be pointed out that companies such as Paradigm, PSB and Axiom make extensive use of some of the most sophisticated audio testing facilities in the world, and have made a great deal of progress in correlating technical measurements to actual human beings' sonic preferences. I would take these measurements much more seriously than those made by CR.

Finally, I would urge anyone considering a speaker purchase to let their ears be the final arbiter of sound quality. Axiom offers a 30-day money-back guarantee; most Paradigm or PSB dealers will give you a similar option. See if you can get a money-back guarantee on a set of CR-recommended speakers, such as Technics, then do a comparison in your home. If your ears tell you that Yamaha or Technics speakers are truly superior to those of Paradigm, etc., you should by all means go that way.

Pete Bilderback

We at the SoundStage! Network take measurements very seriously, which is why speakers reviewed on SoundStage! are measured in the state-of-the-art facilities of the National Research Council in Ottawa, Canada. There are many ways to skew the measurement process, from quoting quasi-anechoic findings to, as it appears with Consumer Reports, simply not performing enough measurements or ones that will favor certain kinds of speakers over others that are more accomplished designs and thus more complete products.


December 4, 2001

I am interested in getting a vintage tube amp as I'm not too satisfied with my current budget solid-state amp (a well-reviewed Audio Source Amp Two). I notice that speaker and input connections would be an issue, as no vintage amp will accept my banana and RCA plugs. What kind of connectors would I need? What is the cheapest and easiest (I don't want any labor-intensive replacement) way to do it?

Stewart

I'm not sure what problems you are having with input connections, but I do understand your speaker-cable issues. With some experience with older McIntosh equipment, I've run into the same problems. If the amplifier has a barrier strip for speaker connections, the easiest way to connect your speaker cables is to use old-fashioned bare wire. Spades, if wedged into the plastic separators, will invariably crack the strip. Bare wire can be used around the screws and will be kept from touching other taps with the plastic separators. This is what the barrier strip is designed to accept, and is the best way to utilize them.


December 3, 2001

Thank you for providing a thorough source of information for those interested in gathering useful information on buying stereo equipment. I am a novice and have learned much from your site and the rest of the SoundStage! Network. Your "How To" guides have been the best reading I have found on this subject.

I am looking to put together a basic music/HT system. I already have a Kenwood VR-410 receiver mated to a cheap pair of bookshelf JBLs, but I have been mulling over what speakers to buy for mains (plus center and sub) -- I figured to spend approximately $1000 including cables.

In November, Consumer Reports issued a review of loudspeakers and their reviews rated many of the mass-market products higher than most all of the specialized equipment that you favor. Although they provide precious little background on their testing methods, they recommend Technics(!) speakers. Obviously, sound is subjective and speaker performance is affected by the equipment that powers the speakers, but I had bought into believing that I should pursue the entry-level products by Paradigm, Axiom, PSB or Polk. Why should I cough up for these when I can probably get the Technics for less? Would companies like Pioneer and Panasonic/Technics really produce a sub-standard speaker and put their general reputation at risk?

Unfortunately, it may sound like I am challenging your objectivity or professionalism, and to some extent I am. But isn't that the constant dilemma in journalism, especially with something as subjective as reviews? Consumer Reports does not take revenue from advertisers (I know there have been issues with respect to Consumer Union's funding) and your site is obviously driven by advertising revenues, so you have more at stake when issuing a review about equipment.

I am very interested in your thoughts and look forward to your reply.

Mitchell Bernick

Your letter is well thought out, and you do raise some very good points. My first observation is that you must look at each individual company, and more specifically, the product or line they are producing, and judge them based on their merits alone. Do I doubt that Technics can produce a good speaker? Absolutely not. Technics could certainly, with their substantial resources, produce a product worthy of an excellent system. I happen to own a Technics DVD-A10 myself and love it. The bigger question than one of this mass-market company versus that more specialized manufacturer is one of how their products are judged, based on what criteria, and by whom with what experience base. I can tell you from years of reviewing speakers that to get the true measure of a product you do have to know what to listen for, how to set it up optimally, and have enough experience to listen intently for hours before any reasonably solid conclusions can be drawn. Not knowing what the review process is like at Consumer Reports, what type of experience their reviewers have, or what they were listening for and over what type of system, I cannot draw any conclusions about their rankings.

I can tell you that we are very careful in our observations, and pride ourselves on "getting it right." I can also tell you that simply ranking products in numerical order, although convenient for the reader, is fraught with peril. It's very unlikely that one speaker is better with all music and in all systems than another (especially right down the list, one after another).

Lastly, we don't review hair dryers -- we do review hi-fi. If I wanted to know about hair dryers, I would ask my wife and her friends. When looking for information on audio equipment, I would ask someone who listens all the time, which we at the SoundStage! Network do.


GOODSOUND!All Contents Copyright © 2001
Schneider Publishing Inc., All Rights Reserved.
Any reproduction of content on
this site without permission is strictly forbidden.